Posts by Muddy Waters

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This week's resurrection video, will it backfire on the wt?

by prologos in

the resurrection is supposed to be a joyous occasion?, if it ever happened!

--well, this week's showing at the hall was the opposite, it was about death with violins playing in the background.

a recently bereaved member, , full of tears, (like many others) could not contain herself.

Muddy Waters

BASTARDS!!! I just watched this, and as I have lost my mom last year, all the things in this video triggered all the feelings of pain, loss, grief...

Those bastards captured it all, even to holding the person's hand as they lay dying, without energy to squeeze back....

Emotional manipulation....

Horrid, heartless .... and people are supposed to be "encouraged" by this???

In the JW culture, a person has no boundaries, all is expected to be revealed and told to the elders. The rank and file have no exclusions. Yet there is no transparency at the top or other upper levels. So they are free to twiddle and tweak the emotions and whatever else they want to twiddle and tweak of the R & F.

Bastards and their bastard behaviour. And too full of themselves to even be ashamed.

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Circuit Overseer Guidelines (tg-E) October 2015

by wifibandit in

circuit overseer guidelines (tg-e) october 2015. http://bit.ly/1utgizt.

Muddy Waters

Wow, thank you. Another look behind the curtain of the "most holy of holies" LOL

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JW marriages: “They” looked good on paper.

by Londo111 in

i applaud anyone, male or female, who overcomes shallowness and looks at a person’s deeper qualities, especially in regard dating and marriage.

the movie and fashion industry does much to institute shallowness to the point that, in my opinion, it promotes outright discrimination and judgmentalism even as they give lip service to tolerance..

on the other hand, among jehovah’s witnesses, there seem to be a preponderance of incompatible marriages.

Muddy Waters

These posts catch at my heart in so many ways.... so insightful and anguished... so revealing of the inward captivity and unhappiness and total screwed-up-ness of religious mind-control -- the structures that were supposed to support us are rotten and untrustworthy.... and our closest relationships are even to be under their control. We all understand. We hear and cry & rage with you. You are not alone.

I do love these forums... you are all blessings, and whatever journey we are on, I hope it leads to .... something.

Something good.

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Some gems from the "Anointed" WT study

by NotBlind in

i know this has been discussed before, but i think some of these wacky (but thought-provoking) comments deserve their own thread.. paragraph 6 says: modestly, anointed ones acknowledge that they do not necessarily have more holy spirit than those with an earthly hope.

they do not claim to have special knowledge or revelations; neither do they try to prove that they are in some way superior.

somebody needs to send this memo to the gb.

Muddy Waters

DATA-DOG: omg, Wow, brilliant!! I do believe you nailed it. Nice one!!!! Totally explains what they're up to.

Them and their freakin' "teaching commands of men as doctrines."!!!

... As you say, this gives them a great way to prepare the way for the future anointed..... Ha. I'll bet there is even a WT study article being prepared about that.... Those who prepare the way, like Jesus and John the Baptist, and how it is definitely a " prophetic drama" which features them of course, and those who will follow. Gah.

You know, I would like to see this topic posted or included under a special, new category topic called "forum prophecies", ha.

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Kingdom Hall Built on Site of Former Slave Market

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

in mississippi, there is a historical site called forks of the road.

before the civil war, it was one of the most active slave trading markets in the south.

it was a triangular piece of land formed by ... you guessed it ... a fork in the road.

Muddy Waters

Perry, now that you have edited your post to say "most of us", I can "like" it. :)

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Kingdom Hall Built on Site of Former Slave Market

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

in mississippi, there is a historical site called forks of the road.

before the civil war, it was one of the most active slave trading markets in the south.

it was a triangular piece of land formed by ... you guessed it ... a fork in the road.

Muddy Waters

omg, the IRONY!! The *APTNESS*!!!

I don't think I could love this more.

And the leaders of the WT think that they, their religion, represents FREEDOM, (George Orwell style, that is!)

..... the shackles and chains are awful, dreadful, horrifying... Yet to think! -- that the WT doctrine shackles your mind, your sense of reason and critical thinking.... And they shackle and chain you in every action, thought, and deed.... What you wear, what you read, what music you listen to, what tv shows you shouldn't see or movies to watch, what celebrations to observe or not, who you associate with, what education you receive or don't, who you marry, whether you should have children, and what kind of education your own children should receive, and whether you should say "bless you" to even somebody who has sneezed, and that the whole world is going to hell except them - their smug, self-righteous, judgmental, family-shunning, pedophile-protecting, UN joining, false-prophesying, lunatic-happy-face-smiling selves, while most of them are probably "master-masturbators" (ha, don't you love that phrase?), porn-addicted, uptight, selfish, fools.

And then they put people in this sort of shackles and chains and expect these people to do the same to others. To think of it!! Gah! *

* repeat previous paragraphs!* .. .. As I could rant on forever....

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How Should Anointed Christians View Themselves?

by jwdoctrine in

in this coming sunday's study article :”we want to go with you” and paragraph 5 we read :.

“those who partake of the emblems at the memorial should carefully consider the warning found at1 corinthians 11:27-29.

(read.

Muddy Waters

Hahaha!! I got curious and looked up the Memorial day texts -- almost ALL of them are warning and cautioning and explaining how ONLY those who are "anointed" should partake... and how only those thusly "ENTITLED" should partake... that only these "approved" ones are "worthy" and how you would not want to partake unworthily.... On and on they go for close to a week.

They really do want to hammer this point home.

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How Should Anointed Christians View Themselves?

by jwdoctrine in

in this coming sunday's study article :”we want to go with you” and paragraph 5 we read :.

“those who partake of the emblems at the memorial should carefully consider the warning found at1 corinthians 11:27-29.

(read.

Muddy Waters

Their Jesus is not looking very friendly here, he has such a weird expression on his face... Is he looking at Judas?

But John is certainly looking extra lovey-dovey here. The other disciple is looking at the bread like, "WTF? Bread/body? Wine/blood? What??" lol

The language in the paragraph mentioned sounds really hostile, like, "Those who partake... should *CAREFULLY CONSIDER the *WARNING*!!! found at blah blah blah scripture..." And then they repeat the word "warning" two sentences later. Like they really need to CAUTION people about not partaking. Buncha blowhards. They must not like those numbers going up in the Yearbooks....

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Not that I'm complaining but I'm wondering if something is up

by joe134cd in

i have physically not attended a meeting in 3 years and knew ttatt for about 6-18 months before that.

in that time i have only had 2 physical visit from the jws.

no return to jehovah brochure or memorial invite place under my door mat.

Muddy Waters

We had 2 elders at our door yesterday, but we did not answer. They left a memorial tract in our mailbox.

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Do you know what Rahab looked like?

by ttdtt in

hello friends - here is a new area in the kids section of the jw website - learn how to draw rahab.. 1st - she was a prostitute of jericho.

could there be other characters to talk about with our kids?.

2nd - it says "learn how to draw rahab".

Muddy Waters

Funny, she has a Wilma Flintstone necklace, and Judy Jetson garments (cute little lapel things on her shoulders), and a Jetson/Flintstone/Alladin style haircut ... a huge mouth with giant teeth.... and no body below her neck and shoulders.

....

And very good point, Alive!, about why the WT always uses Rahab as an example! Most interesting, as they always made such a big deal about her, and she was a prostitute and a liar! When I first started studying, I felt it was odd the way they used her and other characters in the bible .... but repetition and mind numbing meetings made it all right after all.